The Battle of Verneuil 17 August 1424

The Battle of Verneuil 17th August


Friday, 29 April 2011

More Salute Pics


Credit for these pics and the former must go to Joe Dever, Phil Steele and Ray. without the generosity of these gents I wouldn't have anything to show for our efforts and this blog would be a less happy place. Lesson learnt- always check your camera for the battery before you leaqve for a show!

Thanks again guys,


Thursday, 28 April 2011

Verneuil Vignettes

I threw together some vignettes from mostly already painted miniatures for the Verneuil demo. We use them in Impetus to mark units that are Disordered, essentially they act as a kind of casulaty marker, something absolutely crucial when putting on a demo game as the last thing you need is card markers cluttering up what would otherwise be an impressive view. Despite already having a number of these already made up, as it happenned on the day we didn't really have enough of these so there will be plenty more to come.

Wednesday, 27 April 2011

Announcing Gewalthaufen!

I've turned some of my attention over to building a Swiss army based on the different types of forces used by the 'Swiss' in fighting the armies of Charles the Bold during the Burgundian Wars. I've had a number of interesting ideas, all now made much more affordable by the release of Perry Miniatures Continental Mercenaries hard plastics. Please feel free to peruse the pages of Gewalthaufen and hopefully you will find something of interest to you there.

There's a link here and one can be found on my list of Blog-a-licious list of sites on the sidebar.


Salute and The Battle of Verneuil Demo Game

OK, picture the scene; terrain all set up- check. Mini's all set out- check. Sets tripod up and get's camera out of case- check. Fixes camera to tripod and switches on- check. Nothing happens!! Takes camera off tripod and thinks "this feels a little light"! Remembers! Battery is recharging in Durham!! This is the reason that this battle report covering our demo game at Salute is so late.

It was all a bit of a coup really as all the organising was done via the internet and one Skype conference call! Madness? Maybe, but we pulled it off in the end :O)

The decision was made in the early stages of the games' metamorphosis our version of the battle would be based on Mike Jones' academic paper, Michael K Jones essay The Battle of Verneuil (17th August 1424): Towards a History of Courage. The Lombard and French mounted men at arms were to form a line at the fore of the French battles instead of the starting on the flanks thus launching their attack as soon as the opening shots of the battle started and head straight at the English centre- see earlier post here details.

We had four players, Simon Chick took Salisbury's battle, Nigel Cook Bedfords, whilst the Franco-Scottish were played by George Moriatis as the French and Lombard mounted men at arms and the French Left and Nick Palmer the Scots.

As hostilities opened the Lombards and their French comrades came charging across the battlefield surprising the English and hitting them hard in the centre. The English centre looked hard pressed as the Lombards heavily harnessed mounts ploughed into the English men at arms and archers. For a moment or two it looked for all intents and purposes that the tabletop reenactment was about to take the same turn as the battle proper! However, following some fluky dice rolling the English were saved- or Bedford rallied the English troops exorting his men to fight on! As the game wore on the French and Scottish missile troops made their ponderous way forward followed by the bulk of their dismounted melee troops. It was at this point with things beginning to look very grim for the English- the table we had been given was not wide enough for us to deploy all of our terrain tiles and there was to be no room for the English reserves to make an appearance around a flank! Something we will certainly remedy when we show the game again! All things considered, in a turn or two poor Bedford was going to lose more than his worldly possessions.....

And the rest of Salute? OK, as for buys, well, I continued my quest for Ancient/Medieval rules and bought Hail Ceasar from Warlord Games and was kindly given a copy of Clash of Empires by Stuart of Great Escape Games for some of my painted mini's that feature in the book. Thus far I haven't found the time to do anything except look at the pretty pictures but as soon as I'm able to give them a read I'll report back to you. It was then a short trip to Dave Thomas' stall where I procured three packs of  Perry Miniatures Scourers which will be converted into Mounted Crossbowmen for my Swiss army (more on this later) and a couple of packs of Helmeted Halberdiers/Pikemen, Swiss Heads and Swiss Halberdiers Marching. All these models will have some minor conversion work done so I have as much variation as is possible in my phalanx. This task will be made a lot easier by the purchase of a box of the Perry Continental Mercenaries which provide no end of conversion possibilities. It also ties in nicely with my promise to myself to teach myself to sculpt this year- and probably into the next! :O)

Oh, I actually nearly forgot to mention that we won Best Demo Game which came as a really big surprise!! None of use were expecting this and it wasn't even on our agenda in terms of putting the game on. A real bonus. After Simon and I collected the award from the chap that plated Rifleman Harris in Sharpe (a bit of a surreal moment I can tell you!!) it seemed only right that Simon should take home the trophy as all the scenery was his and I think it was that which was to win the day for us in the eyes of the judges.

My thanks to Nick, George and Nigel for helping play the battle through to it's (almost) conclusion. Thanks to Dave Lanchester for organising the space amongst other things and special thanks to Simon (Painterman) for supplying many of the miniatures and the outstanding scenery and terrain.

A fantastic day of wargaming combined with meeting folk that share the same passion for Late Medieval warfare as me.... what more could you want? OK, some dice might have been an idea :O)


Wednesday, 13 April 2011

M. K Jones Essay

Just a quickie...

In my last post I mentioned one of the influences that inspired our demo game namely Michael K Jones essay The Battle of Verneuil (17th August 1424): Towards a History of Courage. For those that may wish to investigate further it is available from Saga publications:



Verneuil Pamphlet Sneek Peak...

As there hasn't been a post here for a little while I thought I'd add the map thatnwill be appearing on the handouts for Salute this weekend. It'staken from an old edition of Hobilar, No 24 and also contains an article by Pat McGill on the battle. there are a couple of other old Hobilar's that have info on the battle and these along side Michael K Jones essay The Battle of Verneuil (17th August 1424): Towards a History of Courage have formed the background for our demo game.

I'll dig out the other Hobilars pertaining to the battle and let you know the relevent editions. for those of you who aren't aware of Hobilar.... it's a bi-monthly journal published by the Lance and Longbow Society and is available from the link above if you join the society. Well worth the money IMHO. The Lance and Longbow Society also have a series of publications covering many battles, heraldry and many other aspect of Medieval history that have served me well over the years.

Thursday, 7 April 2011

Mike Loads on Verneuil and Plate Armour

Here's a few vids of Mike Loades from Channel 4's Weapons that Made Britain series  televised about six years ago. In these he discusses the relative merits of  merits of plate armour for both man and beast and the effect plate horse housing on on the English during the initial stages of the Battle of Verneuil. Love him or loath him, he's got a paassion for the period and has some interesting takes on the battle (I'm firmly in the 'love him' camp).


It would be very interesting to hear what you guys think of the videos and in particular Mr Loades ideas about combat.